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« Thread Started on Nov 4, 2003, 1:40pm »
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The United States history was terrible. Many people who weren’t white were not allowed to testify in court. They had to be purposely left out. They could not be eyewitnesses. If it was a white person who was persecuted for murdering another white person, only white people would be allowed into that court. It is terrible.
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« Reply #1 on Nov 4, 2003, 1:52pm »
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In the supreme court of California, Chinese men, who witnessed a murder or a crime done by a white man, weren't allowed to testify agianst them. They wouldn't believe the Chinese's information or what they have to say. It's because they are a different race, have a different language, opinion, color, and their physical structure of the body. They also had no right "to swear away the life of a citizen" or participate" in the affairs of the Government.
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« Reply #2 on Nov 4, 2003, 2:27pm »
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In California 1854, a Chinese man witnessed a murder by a white man. The chinese man wasn't allow to accuse the white man because there was a law against any race like black, indian, and others to testify a whit men. This is related to our big question of the year because the Chinese man wasn't allow to accuse the white man for murdering because he was discriminated against because he was chinese and he's different from white men. :-X
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« Reply #3 on Nov 4, 2003, 5:51pm »
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The People v. Hall is related to our big question for the year because it shows an example of how the whites discriminated the [Chinese] immigrants. The Chinese werenˇ¦t allowed to testify in court against the whites because since the witness was a Chinese and Chinese were ˇ§of a race of people whom nature has marked as inferior, and who are incapable of progress or intellectual development beyond a certain point, as their history has shown; differing in language, opinions, color, and physical conformation; between whom and ourselves nature has placed an impassable difference". Therefore, when the white was accused of murder the case was inadmissible and the white was allowed to go free.
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« Reply #4 on Nov 4, 2003, 7:14pm »
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The case of People vs. Hall was about a Chinese person who witnessed a crime done by a white man. Chinese althrough were not given the right to testify against white people. The people did not believe the Chinese person because of his race and his actions. The white man was set free.

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« Reply #5 on Nov 4, 2003, 8:10pm »
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The People v. hall relates to our big question because it talks about different groups of race and their culture (Chinese) and how they couldn’t be in trials or testify in court. That shows discrimination against everyone except the whites. They didn't only discriminate the Chinese but other races as well as black, Indian, and others they weren't allow to testify against as a witness if a white was convicted. The government excluded all other races other than caucasians. Since no one could testify the white man was let go.


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« Reply #6 on Nov 4, 2003, 9:16pm »
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This is an event that happened which kind of shows how whites and other races were treated differently then each other. Whites were like the powerful people that you to listen to or respect, while other races were treated like slaves. When a Chinese man witnessed a white man murder someone, he was not allowed to be a witness to send the guilty man to jail. Not just Chinese were not allowed, but also blacks, Indians, etc... This showed discrimination of how people were treated unequally and badly for just being themselves, born like that.
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« Reply #8 on Nov 4, 2003, 10:05pm »
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In the California, Supreme Court, all of the Chinese People that had witnessed a crime, that was comitted by a white man, were not allowed to testify against the white man in court.The main reasons why the chinese race was not believed by their word is because they were a diffrent race, Skin color, the language they spoke, and the phisical lookings of their bodys. These are examples of oppression and discrimination, and that is why this is related to our big question.
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« Reply #9 on Nov 4, 2003, 10:49pm »
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In a California Supreme Court in 1854, a Chinese was testifying against a White murdering. But couldn't because the Whites think of the Chinese differing in language, thinking, and skin color. Obviously, racism is shown here and it wasn't fair to a lot of others also. Indians and Blacks couldn't also testify in trials and courts also because of their skin color. The Whites are treating the Chinese and other races unfairly and it's great oppression. Many murderers could just get away with it easily if the witness was a Chinese.

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« Reply #10 on Nov 5, 2003, 6:46pm »
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This California Supreme Court case ruled that the testimony of a Chinese man who witnessed a murder by a white man was inadmissible, largely based upon the prevailing opinion that the Chinese were "a race of people whom nature has marked as inferior, and who are incapable of progress or intellectual development beyond a certain point, as their history has shown; differing in language, opinions, color, and physical conformation; between whom and ourselves nature has placed an impassable difference" and as such had no right " to swear away the life of a citizen" or participate" with us in administering the affairs of our Government."
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« Reply #11 on Nov 5, 2003, 7:04pm »
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An Asian witness has seen a White man murder another. Because of the Asian race, the case was put as unacceptable. In America, laws have been passed excluding the voices of other races other than Whites in courts. The race other than being White did not have the freedom to testify against or be the witnesses of a crime against the Whites. This was related to our Big Question of the year because it shows a sign of racism towards Europeans and Asians. Because the witness has a Chinese ethnicity, his testimony was excluded. If the witness was white however, I bet the case would go through a long process of consideration.

Information found in: http://www.uchastings.edu/wingate/People%20v.%20Hall.htm
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« Reply #12 on Nov 5, 2003, 8:26pm »
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People v. Hall is about not letting any other people testify any Chinese or African-Americans. If they do, they'll get punish. This of course have something to do with our Big Question. The Chinese and the African-Americans were being discriminated against because of who they are. Because they were Chinese and African-Americans, they don't have the right of a real trial. They don't have the same rights as the whites. So even though they didn't do anything, they might get punish because no one dare to testify for them. This is really unfair because I think that everyone should have the same equal rights, especially how they should be judge equally, so they won't get punish for something that they really didn't do.

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« Reply #13 on Nov 5, 2003, 9:33pm »
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Chinese people were being treated unfair because if they witnessed a crime done by a white man than they couldnt have any say. But if i white man accused a chinese man for something hi didnt do, the chinese man would still be arrested. All becasue of inlitorate people
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« Reply #14 on Nov 5, 2003, 11:07pm »
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This is a case about a free white citizen was convicted of murder upon the testimony of chinese witnesses. It related to our big question because it shows another way that the chinese immigrants get oppress and intolerance at. Their oppression is doesn't have any civil rights in America because of racism. Not only the Chinese were oppress by it, the blacks, mulatto and Indians were also doesn't have civil rights. It is a racism against all races and gender.

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